Joining of the Parishes
Extracts of Minutes of Parochial Church Council
22nd September 1976
At a special meeting held at the Rectory, Canon Hawkins welcomed the Archdeacon who had come to speak to us on the Parochial Reorganisation which has become necessary due to limiting of manpower, inflation and economics. He explained that the Campden Deanery had to lose two men and the whole Diocese 25 men - which has to increase to the upper 30's by 1980.
This would mean that, as some people retire, they would not be replaced. It costs on average £3,500 to maintain a parson in a parish which includes stipends, homes, rents etc. 80% of this comes from the quota and the rest from the Church Commissioners.
He discussed how it has been thought about to our losing Long Marston and they go back to Pebworth, and our being linked with Welford – or perhaps, going into the Coventry Diocese.
Our options were not many. The general feeling was that we thought the scheme of joining Welford was not impossible to go along with, and if we had any preference, it is that we should keep the Rectory here occupied.
The Archdeacon thanked us, and will return with our ideas, but told us that we would probably not hear anything further until January or February next year.
13th January 1978
Mr. Ulyatt reported on a Special Meeting held by the Synod on the Pastoral Reorganization, and we are being recommended to be linked with Welford and Weston with the parsonage at Welford. It was agreed by ourselves, that if our Rectory falls vacant, we should put pressure on Gloucester to sell without delay, because the Rectory would deteriorate if allowed to stand empty for long.
3rd April 1979
Mr. Ulyatt reported that at the Deanery Synod, discussion had been on the reductions in clergy. These are to be reduced from 235 to 169 in the Diocese. Campden Deanery to be reduced from 9 to 5. These figures should stand until 1985.
1st August 1979
Future of Rectory
Plans on a new Rectory are likely to be built at Welford and the new Rector will be installed there upon the retirement of our Rector,. The Churchwardens were instructed to write to the Secretary disagreeing strongly against this proposal, with copies to be sent to the Bishops of Gloucester and Tewkesbury and the Archdeacon of Cheltenham
20th September 1979
The Rector reported that the Bishops of Tewkesbury and the Archdeacon were very impressed with the meeting held with our Parochial Church Council on Friday 14th September when we pout forward our case to keep the Rectory at Clifford.
They then went on to meet Welford Parochial Church Council for their opinions, and we now await further developments
Dr. Bramwell has agreed to approach the Planning Department to find out what grade the Rectory is listed, and if listed too low, how to get it up-graded.
15th November 1979
Nothing heard officially, but the Rector reported that we should know something by the end of November. The Rectory is not listed grade 1, but grade 2*. It was decided to leafe the upgrading until we know the Rectory's future.
22nd November 1979 Rev. Strong's new appointment to Nailsworth, Stroud, means we now link up with Welford/Weston. The Rector will stay on at Clifford Rectory. Decisions about the Rectory being at Welford will be announced later. 17th January 1980 The Diocese had decided that Clifford Rectory is to be retained. An Architect is to view it for the Diocese, with a view to restoring or modernising it.
6th May 1980 A full detailed plan has been sent to the Parsonage Board for modernization of the Rectory – which the Rector has seen – and he is bitterly opposed as not necessary. We await further comment from the Diocese
19th June 1980
The Pastoral Board met the Architect, and after much discussion most of the proposed modernization of the inside of the Rectory was dropped. But the Architect estimated cost for the outside renovations was in the region of £40/50,000. The matter of the Rectory will now come up for review, and we have been asked, together with the Welford and Weston PPC's to meet delegations from the Pastoral Committee, Parsonage Board, Glebe Committee, Church Commissioners, and the Diocesan Secretary. This meeting will be held at Welford Church on 18th July. The PCC will have a special meeting prior to this to discuss our action.
18th September 1980
Location of Rectory
Letters had been received from the Diocesan Secretary about the Rectory which shows that the Pastoral Committee will recommend that the Rectory should be at Welford when they meet on 17th September.
A letter is to be sent to Gloucester asking that we should be given a further opportunity to discuss our points as promised by them at the last meeting we had with them at Welford – before any further discussions were made
18th November 1980
The Rector had written to the Parsonage Board after our last meeting, and was immediately contacted by phone by the Diocesan Secretary who stated no decision had been made – nor would be before the next meeting of the Pastoral Committee due to take place at the end of November.
After hearing of the Committee of the Board exploring possibilities of building at Welford, it was agreed that a further letter should be forwarded asking that “as they were exploring all possibilities for rebuilding a Rectory at Welford, they should also explore the possibilities of rebuilding of Clifford Rectory. The Rector will write this.
22nd January 1981
Planning has been given for a new Rectory building at Welford. A special meeting of the three PCC's and the Diocesan Pastoral Committee will be held on 10th February at our village hall at 7.15pm
20th March 1981
A full report of the special meeting had been received from the Diocesan Secretary, but no formal answer had been made by the Bishop, but it looks certain that the Rectory will be at Welford.
It was pointed out that the Rector should inform the Diocesan Secretary that we do not own the Parish Hall; that it belongs to the Diocesan Commissioners and we act as agents.
22nd April 1981
We have now received a formal letter stating that the Rectory will be built at Welford. We have been asked to let Gloucester know what we want doing to the Hall.
It was decided that we should ask Gloucester if we can employ our own Architect to do our alterations and send our plans to them for them to decide how much they will then be prepared to allow us towards the cost.
It was also agreed to ask Gloucester if a cloakroom could be added to the Vestry in the Church.
PASTORAL MEASURES 1968 – Proposals for a Pastoral Scheme 1. Dissolution of benefices The benefice of Welford with Weston; the benefice of Clifford Chambers with Marston Sicca and the benefice of Pebworth with Dorsington in the diocese of Gloucester shall be dissolved. 2. Creation of new benefice of Welford with Weston and Clifford Chambers (1) A new benefice which shall be named “The Benefice of Welford with Weston and Clifford Chambers” shall be created in the diocese of Gloucester and the area of the new benefice shall comprise the parish of Welford, the parish of Weston and the parish of Clifford Chambers which parishes shall continue distinct. (2) The new benefice and its constituent parishes shall belong to the archdeaconry of Cheltenham and the rural deanery of Campden (3) (1) If immediately before this Scheme comes into operation the benefice of Welford with Weston is vacant or if the Scheme is brought into operation by the vacancy of the said benefice and in either case the Reverend David Frederick Cox Hawkins is then incumbent of the benefice of Clifford Chambers with Marston Sicca he shall be the first incumbent of the new benefice (2) If immediately before this Scheme comes into operation the benefice of Clifford Chambers with Marston Sicca is vacant or if the Scheme is brought into operation by the vacancy of the said benefice and in either case the Reverend John David Strong is then incumbent of the benefice of Welford with Weston he shall be the first incumbent of the new benefice. (4) Subject to paragraph 3 of Clause 2 hereof the right of presentation to the new benefice shall be exercised in a recurring series of three successive turns of which the Right Honourable the Baron Sackville of Knowle Sevenoaks in the county of Kent shall have the first and third turns and the Gloucester Diocesan Board of Patronage shall have the second turn (5) The following shall be appropriated or transferred as the case may be to the new benefice so as to become endowments and property of that benefice (1) the endowments and property of the benefice of Welford with Weston (2) all the endowments and property of the benefice of Clifford Chambers with Marston Sicca other than those appropriated or transferred to the benefice of Pebworth with Dorsington and Marston Sicca in accordance with paragraph 6 of clause 3 hereof 3. Creation of new benefice of Pebworth with Dorsington and Marston Sicca (1) A new benefice which shall be named “The Benefice of Pebworth with Dorsington and Marston Sicca” shall be created in the diocese of Gloucester and the area of the new benefice shall comprise the parish of Pebworth, the parish of Dorsington and the parish of Marston Sicca (2) The new benefice and its constituent parishes shall belong to the archdeaconry of Cheltenham and the rural deanery of Campden (3) If immediately before this Scheme comes into operation the Reverend Richard Ellis Owen is incumbent of the benefice of Pebworth with Dorsington he shall be the first incumbent of the new benefice (4) The parsonage house of the benefice of Pebworth and Dorsington shall be vested in the incumbent of the new benefice in his corporate capacity as his residence (5) The following shall be appropriated or transferred as the case may be to the new benefice so as to become endowments and property of that benefice (1) The endowments and property of the benefice of Pebworh with Dorsington (2) (a) A permanent annuity of £28 charged on the Church Commissioners General Fund in favour of the benefice of Clifford Chambers with Marston Sicca (b) A capital sum of £2,817.90 now producing an annual income of £98.66 being part of a larger sum held by the Church Commissioners on behalf of the benefice of Clifford Chambers with Marston Sicca 4. Coming into operation of this Scheme This Scheme shall come into operation upon the first day of the month following the date of any Order of Her Majesty in Council confirming this Scheme if either the benefice of Welford with Weston or the benefice of Clifford Chambers with Marston Sicca is or are vacant but if both the benefices are then full the Scheme shall come into operation upon the date on which the first of the said benefices is vacated. (Note – A decision on which parsonage house is to be retained as the place of residence for the incumbent of the new benefice of Welford with Weston and Clifford Chambers and which parsonage is to be disposed of is being deferred). Signed ?